Episode 10: Our Histories with Natasha Trethewey

Natasha Trethewey is a two-time U.S. Poet Laureate and winner of the Pulitzer Prize for her book of poems, Native Guard. Her latest book is Memorial Drive; A Daughter’s Memoir. It was a moving and deeply personal conversation. We talked about the debt we both owe to our mothers and how we examine and reconcile our complicated personal and national histories. Links to Learn More About: Natasha Trethewey,  Memorial Drive: A Daughter’s Memoir,  Native Guard

Episode 9: Dream Hoarding w/ Richard Reeves

Richard Reeves is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution whose research focuses on the middle class, inequality and social mobility. His latest book is Dream Hoarders: How the American Upper Middle Class Is Leaving Everyone Else in the Dust, Why That Is a Problem, and What to Do about It. Our conversation really challenges us all to reconsider our own American Dream story and more importantly what we’re doing to help or hinder the dreams of others. Links to Learn More About: Richard Reeves,  Dream Hoarders, The Future of the Middle Class

Episode 8: The Recipe for Success w/ Chef Aaron Sanchez

Aaron Sanchez is an award-winning chef, TV personality, author and philanthropist. He is chef/owner of Johnny Sánchez in New Orleans, and a judge on FOX’s hit culinary competition series MasterChef and MasterChef Junior. For the many “famous” roles he plays, it was our discussion about the more essential ones of being fathers, sons, grandsons and friends that rang most true.   Links to Learn More About: Chef Aaron Sanchez,  Where I Come From: Life lessons from a Latin Chef,  Aaron Sanchez Scholarship Fund,  Coco

Episode 7: Reaching for Hope with Nicholas Kristof

Nick Kristof is a self-described “Oregon farm boy turned New York Times columnist.” We discussed his latest book, Tightrope: Americans Reaching for Hope. Written with his wife, Sheryl WuDunn, it explores why some people, including many childhood friends from his #6 school bus, have dramatically different life outcomes than others. It was a deeply honest and personal conversation about our friends, our lives and what contributes to where we end up. Links to Learn More About: Nicholas Kristof, Tightrope: Americans Reaching for Hope, Kristof Impact

Introducing Attribution w/ Bob McKinnon

Listen to the trailer for our new podcast Attribution — where people from all walks of life, reflect on who and what has contributed to where they ended up. Our hope is after each episode, you feel a little more inspired, grateful, or supported, then when you first hit play.

Episode 6: Reporting on the American Dream w/ Paul Solman

Paul Solman is the business, economics and occasional art correspondent for the PBS NewsHour. Paul is also co-founder of the American Exchange Project. Our conversation was recorded as part of an event held by the Colin Powell School for Civic and Global Leadership at City College, where I also teach. It was a fascinating discussion about the historical challenges in achieving and reporting on economic mobility. Learn more about: Paul Solman, The Upswing: How America Came Together a Century Ago and How We Can Do It Again, The American Exchange Project, Colin Powell School for Civic and Global Leadership at

Episode 5: The Keys w/ Jonnie “Most” Davis

Musician/producer/songwriter, Jonnie “Most” Davis had his first number one hit at the age of 24. Since then he’s worked with artists such as Roger Daltry, Mary J. Blige, Biggie Smalls, Outkast, Usher, American Authors, and Pink. All toll he has 25 Gold and Platinum records to his credit. But in this conversation, you’ll hear that he doesn’t define success by the Billboard charts and that the people that contributed to where he is today are far from household names. Links to Learn More About: Jonnie Most Davis, Jonnie’s recent journey

Episode 4: Showing up w/ Bobby Jones

In this wide ranging conversation, the author and entrepreneur Bobby Jones talks about business, culture, sports – and the role each plays in making the world a bit better. In sharing his own journey growing up in Washington DC, Bobby talks about the importance of just “showing up for each other”,  seeing examples of successful people who look like you in your neighborhoods  and asking ourselves to think about what we’re “putting in the hands” of our young people that will shape their path forward.   Bobby Jones, co-founder of Good is the New Cool and brand purpose consultancy Conspiracy of

Episode 3: Trust w/ Rachel Botsman

Rachel Botsman is a leading expert and author on trust in the modern world. As the first Trust Fellow at Oxford University’s Saïd Business School, she aims to challenge and change the way people think about trust and related topics such as power, influence, truth and beliefs.  In her conversation with Bob, they talk about the under appreciated but fundamental role trust plays in where we end up in life. Stay tuned for the end of the podcast where Rachel comes to an interesting realization about her own work and the introduction of the idea of “trust inequity.” Rachel is

Episode 2: Compassion with Rachel Ruttan

Rachel Ruttan’s research is ripe with counterintuitive findings, such as, how past experience overcoming a struggle can actually make us less compassionate to people currently experiencing the same challenge. Or how the pursuit of money can make us feel worse about ourselves. Going behind her fascinating research, listen to how Rachel’s own journey out of poverty informs her work.  Rachel Ruttan is an assistant professor at the Rotman School of Management, at the University of Toronto. Rachel’s research examines issues around moral judgement, values, compassion we feel for others and why we sometimes have lapses in it.  Her work has